@BBCNewsNight Hypocrisy & Insults

16 Dec

BBC NewsNight chooses Kissinger as the "expert" on Arab Spring

I was invited to be on BBC NewsNight on Thursday, 15 December 2011, along with Henry Kissinger, Tawakul Karman, Simon Schama, and Jeremy Greenstock to speak on the prospects of the Arab Spring. They emailed me the following questions to answer before the show, and I gave them a brief on my position on each: (copied & paste from the email here:

My brief answers were as following:

When I got on the show, which will hopefully be uploaded to youtube so I can posted here, I was faced with the most western-centric, orientalist, and racist point of view on the Arab Spring. Comments about the Arab spring ranged from “a cry for western democracy,” calling the Middle East “the Muslim world,” “Islamist threat to democracy and prosecution of minorities,” to posing “western technology as what made these revolutions possible.” It was impossible enough to bare Henry Kissinger’s deep voice on the other end of the line being asked as an “expert” on the Middle East let alone the Arab spring & “Islamist scare” they portrayed. Henry Kissinger?! The one whose exact polices ruined our country and many others to the ground?!! unbelievably stupid. I was going to explode out of frustration for not getting ANY chance to address these comments (insults in my opinion). I hardly had a minute all together to express my point of view or have any questions directed to me except 2 compared to the other guests, who dominated the already dominated western/oriental point of view on the Arab spring. The least any professional media outlet would have done especially speaking on the topic of “democracy” was to give an equal time to all the different speakers or the different point of views.

I was able to get in 2 sentences about the western (US in particular) aid to SCAF, who is leading counter-revolution and acting on the “prosecution of minorities” that other speakers wanted to label it as the “Islamist threat,” but I linked it that it is SCAF who is prosecuting minorities alluring to the Maspero massacre. I also added that the west has NO positive impact what so ever on these revolutions in fact we are going exactly against it.

I sent them an email afterwards explaining my frustration, and requesting to never be invited again on NewsNight as a guest. I do expect an apology and a response to my email copied & pasted below.

“BBC News Night

When you invited me on the show, I was okay to arrange my own ride in

the middle of the night when streets are not safe and activists are

being kidnapped by state government & army everyday to fulfill your request

of being a guest on the show. Secondly, I requested to be introduced

as “a revolutionary socialist activist” and you said no problem, but

Kristy Wark did NOT. I was asked by Jake Morris to give my opinion about

possible questions on the show, and I had no problem responding on the

spot with my opinion.

As the show went on, I noticed that you had total of 5 different

guests including Henry Kissinger, who if you had done any kind of

research or simply took my answers to your questions seriously, you

would know that my point of view is the exact opposite. YET, your

presenter Kristy Wark completely cut me off, and never gave me the

chance to get an equal opportunity as the other guests to express my

point of view. Please review the tapes and actually calculate the

amount of seconds i was able to speak compared to the other guests

when I have a complete opposite opinion of this very orientalist,

western-centric, racist discussion of the Arab Spring. If you saw that

i was too much or too “radical” for your racist/discriminatory show to

cut me off like you did, why did you invite me & not give me enough

time to express my point of view like others? or is it because i

didn’t follow the western-based argument about the “Muslim world” or

the ignorant “western technology” comment from Greenstock, so you shut

me up? I felt very disrespected for bringing me there in the middle of

the night to only frustrate me by not giving me a chance to speak. I

would have been much more comfortable sitting at home and not getting

the few seconds I got on the most insulting show on the Arab Spring

that i have ever witnessed.

Please do not ask me for any news night interviews again. Your entity

incites and affirms the western agenda that our revolution stands

against and if you are professional journalists you would at least

give all sides an equal opportunity to present their view, but you

chose Henry Kissinger (with all his history) to be more of an “expert”

on the Arab Spring (given how much time you allowed him to speak) than

someone fighting there and knows more about what is happening (given

why you invited me in the first place). The least you would have done

is an equal time to each speaker but you proved to me how

unprofessional you are.

Thank you for a night of deep frustration.”

Following day I received this email from deputy producer of NewsNight, Liz Gibbons:

This was my response:

“I am not changing anything about my blog, and you can sue me. Just

because you kept inviting me to report on what was happening during

the 18 days of Tahrir doesn’t give you any right to insult me in

return on the show and expect me to be okay with it. I felt

disrespected, and violated by the condescending tone and the whole

orientation of the discussion. All the feedback I got from those who

saw the show, completely agreed that I was cut off by Kirst Wark, and

you can check twitter for that. I can hold whatever opinion I have and

I know that you will never accept it because you are unprofessional

and your righteous indignation is the proof of it.”

I have no comment.

32 Responses to “@BBCNewsNight Hypocrisy & Insults”

  1. Austin G. Mackella December 16, 2011 at 6:11 am #

    Disgusting. I wish this wasn’t typical of western media.

    • Mark Krantz December 16, 2011 at 3:19 pm #

      Gigi, I watched Newsnight on the ‘watch again’ BBC website, it was fantastic!

      This is the first time I have ever seen on the BBC a speaker as a ‘Revolutionary Socialist Activist.’ Remember this is the State Broadcasting Media.

      The Revolution was the fact in the whole discussion. You were inspiring. All agreed that it would be the revolutionary class that would shape the future – not western power.

      I understand you frustration at not being allowed to say more, but, for many of us watching, just the fact that you were allowed on Newsnight! was a sign of the strength of the revolution process.

      • Maya December 16, 2011 at 7:12 pm #

        Well done Gigi, your reaction to the self-serving, self-loving, brutal corporate BBC is spot-on.

        For those who dare to praise BBC, here is the piece of info;

        On 31st October 2011, on the Radio Canada, the US Lieutenant General Charles Butchered who led the Operation Unified Protector, which is how they named the mass massacre, murder, decapitation, knife sodomasing and so on of Libyan people, made a statement saying that the MEDIA were vital to them in the Libyan Operation. That they provided the NATO with the vital evidence on the ground. This is almost a quote.

        This, apart from fabricating the evidence, showing a complete contempt for us by feeding the mass lies and threatening the independent journalists in Libya who were under the death-threat reporting the truth.

        As far as I know, this is the first time, that it was publically admitted that the jorunalists were acting as a direct agents of the imperialist military/profit/power interests although it has been practiced for very long time. When Thierry Maysson of http://www.voltairenet.org/ made this statement in Tripoli during the NATO bombardment, it led to a big uproar.Well, he new what he was talking about, after all he is a conveyer of truth.

        As far as I am concerned, the BBC, CNN, Fox…are as responsible for slaying of Libya (and all modern day invasions) as the henchmen on the ground.

        So, completely with you Gigi.

        And not with you Nigel, as you are applying that typical “lets be happy with the bits and pieces that they throw in front of us, it’s better than nothing.”

        No way. we have to expose corporate media for what they are; accomplices in colonial/neo-colonial/imperialist war and all other crimes.

    • Marc December 16, 2011 at 4:22 pm #

      yeah, totally disgusting. “western technology?!” — everyone knows that facebook was invented in Oman, and twitter in Yemen. and to call the middle east the “muslim world” is just nuts — there barely are any muslims there!! sooooo ignorant!!
      rock on brother and sister revolutionaries!!

  2. Mercil December 16, 2011 at 10:18 am #

    BBC is not our friend. A few weeks ago BBC radio did a program whose title implied that all the guests would be Egyptians giving their viewpoints. There were **SOME** Egyptians, but most of them were foreigners, for example a Saudi who seems to have never set foot in Egypt and a British woman (@JaneAkshar) working in Luxor illegally who is against the revolution. Of course, they were hiding behind names that were vaguely Egyptian sounding for half the show until their fraud was pointed out by one of the Egyptians.

  3. Jay Dee December 16, 2011 at 10:41 am #

    I complained about BBC Question time and its inherent right-wing bias (often 3 or 4 right-wing commentators and no left-wing or alternative commentator). They wrote back and spoke of how they ‘always seek balance on their programmes’. No they do not.

    They present someone to their viewers who has an alternative viewpoint then chooses to ignore them, much as they did in your case, because it does not fit in with the BBC narrative which is very much the establishment line or the defender of the ‘status quo’.

    If it’s any consolation I read your comments as an early ‘reporter’ of what was happening in Tahir Square on Twitter as a follower of yours and you were more accurate, in both reporting what you saw and your concluding analysis of what would happen, than any western media so I would not lose any sleep over Newsnight.

    If you do get the opportunity to speak to Channel 4 News than take it. Not only will they give you time to air your views they’ll welcome them.

  4. nimbus77 December 16, 2011 at 11:36 am #

    You should have someone else interview you, and then put it on Youtube as a reply to BBC NewsNight’s post (if it ends up there).

  5. TIM December 16, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

    Outrageous but unsuroprising. I have been a speaker from the audience in QUESTION TIME & they do the same thing. Once they realise u r coming from the left (I mean actual left, not Miliband & the other sellouts) they either cut u off once u say anything mildly critical or ignore u completely. The BBC has become a mouthpiece for the neoliberal free market agenda – rather than at least go for the honesty of outright censorship they manipuklate the news in this way…

  6. tim December 16, 2011 at 2:15 pm #

    BBc news is almost impossible to listen to these days, it barely qualifies as news, mere propaganda.

  7. Nigel Strudwick December 16, 2011 at 5:25 pm #

    I think everyone should watch this and compare it with what is said above. I agree that Kissinger shouldn’t have been there, and that Blackstock was rather patronising, but Gigi did get two one minute chances to speak (I admit the others perhaps had more turns but not much more time). One of the problems about TV media is that it is restricted by time and inevitably people can feel cheated. Scharma did try and steer a middle course; and Gigi completely omits mention of the Yemeni Nobel Prize lady, who was taking a similar course to her, albeit a little more moderate. Lastly, Gigi was billed on the label on screen as “Revolutionary Socialist Activist” so it’s unfair to blame the BBC that way. I’d say it was reasonably balanced for a medium in which balanced debate isn’t always easy. I’ll be interested to see what others think. [By the way, I’m an Egyptologist with a deep love of Egypt and its people, and who wants Egypt to get the government it wants, not one which the West desires!]

  8. magicman December 16, 2011 at 11:50 pm #

    First and foremost I completely agree with your political viewpoint, as a western sympathiser with the Egyptian revolution. Now – regarding your, and all of our engagement with the media and in particular the BBC.
    I think that these things have to be tactical. Of course the BBC has a right-wing bias, partly to countenance the Right Wing in the UK who see it as “left-wing” (I know, don’t laugh) and want it closed down, torn apart, they want the whole world to be like Fox News. So the BBC makes sure that it’s very firmly on the wrong side of the fence while pretending to be balanced. The problem behind that though, is that the whole British Establishment has swung to the right since Thatcher, followed by Blair, so that the actual centre line as perceived by the media went to the right too. No one asked us, the people except at so-called “elections” where the choice offered gets narrower and narrower and the views on display are almost all from the right. One exception – Caroline Lucas leader of the Green Party UK was elected in Brighton (where I live) on a left-wing manifesto. So perhaps your expectations of the BBC were too high. Either way your point of view is extremely important, especially in the western media, and I would urge you to reconsider your position vis-a-vis not being invited again. However we can get these viewpoints out at any time we must remain tactical in how we deal with the media, they are not on our side, but they must be dealt with because millions consume their propaganda. We must keep a foot in the door.

  9. satchimon December 17, 2011 at 1:17 am #

    Gigi > BBC

  10. Nigel Strudwick December 17, 2011 at 11:42 am #

    No media organisation is perfect, but the BBC is about as good overall as it gets. The fact that they are being criticised from both the right and the left suggests to me that they are in general steering a reasonable course!

  11. soilis December 17, 2011 at 2:41 pm #

    Very complicated world we live in isnt it?who helps who ,we dont even know who is our friend any more and why is someone our friend,and for how long?
    So what part of this you didnt expect?oh you just woke up to the fact that media are not to be trusted ,at all?that our society is divided to those who have power in their hands and will never give it away ,and those who never had power and never wanted any , they just wanted to live and let live.
    A side question:is the UK public still paying for BBC the special TV tax?if so ,you should really start thinking about changing your behavioural pattern there…….good luck.as for the anything revolution wherever ,dont believe a word.true change will come from small teams,small communities,not because we are stupid or we cant conceive a big plan ,but because there is no such solution.that will be implemented by some magic force all over the world.and everyone will be happy with it.
    only way to live without problems is to organise yuor life to be independent of this society .from your power needs ,to food,to water ,to shelter.that will be the only way forward,technological advances have no sense if they are not creating a better self that can create a better society.if they are a mere consumption motivated thing.
    So final word: dont hope for anything,dont fear anything,be free.

  12. Joan H Craig (@DementedBonxie) December 17, 2011 at 2:58 pm #

    You can watch the programme on BBC iPlayer till next Wednesday, perhaps early Thursday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b018b9mm#programme-broadcasts

    @GSQUARE86 congratulations! You made a brilliant contribution. What you said, how you said, count for more than the length of time you got to say it. Anywhere between 200,000 & 500,000 people will have heard this – people who would otherwise be in the dark about the issues. It’s important that Arab women like yourself and Tawakul Karman are both seen and heard. I think it is a mistake to withdraw from further participation, and I hope you will withdraw from that refusal. We need you there. The revolutionaries need you there. Even if it is a bit of a scunner, the BBC needs you there.

    I watched the recording of the programme yesterday evening. I haven’t seen Newsnight for some years (no TV, no time), and I was disappointed at the deterioration in format and presenter. Time allowed was too short, and there were too many participants for there to be any decent interchange or reflection on the issues. Thus the presenter’s job was reduced to that of timekeeping and axing people midstream. Participants were thus stuck with their basic script and inhibited from engagement with one another. Mind you, it’s difficult to see what prospects there could be of fruitful engagement among 3 older establishment male politico types with two younger Arab revolutionaries with such different styles.

    My fellow countrywoman, Kirsty Wark, while suffering the constraints of the organisation and its various tensions and dilemmas, seems to be past her best. She’s always been provocative and contentious, and to effect, but on this occasion at least, it seemed to be
    only for the sake of it. I’d also like to stress to Gigi that Kirsty Wark, contrary to her impressions, is pretty left wing!

    All in all, it seems to me that everyone concerned about this programme debacle should take on board all that magicman says in the comment above. Newsnight needs a makeover. Kirsty Wark needs a new job in which she can flourish again.

  13. Terry December 17, 2011 at 4:14 pm #

    BBC is basically a criminal news establishment that apologizes Zionist atrocity in the Middle East. It is as imperfect as any news resource can get. Henry Kissinger is a war criminal and that BBC treats Kissinger as an authority is very telling about its nefarious agenda as a so called news resource.

  14. Nicolas.Brien December 17, 2011 at 8:57 pm #

    Hi, would it be possible to get in touch with you through email? I will be in Egypt very soon and would like to meet you.

  15. Khalid December 18, 2011 at 12:05 am #

    Hello, I am from Yemen and have been following Newsnight for some time.

    I think this news programme is reasonable but sometimes I feel its practice is nothing more than shoddy journalism. For example, the episode Gigi is talking about, there were 2 opinions. One claims that its alarming that Islamists are reaching power. The other argument represents those who say that even the Islamists are entitled and have the right to practice democracy, simply like anyone else.

    If the editor was professional enough and not biased she/he would have brought people on both sides of the same weight. what happened was they brought Kissinger, a well known pro Israel anti political Islam figure ( and was given more time to speak). On the other hand, people like Gigi and Karman were not of the same calibre, in the sense that Karman’s English was poor and Gigi was simply a revolutionist not a well-spoken politician nor a a knowledgeable historian. Now, the audience, who don’t know much about the area and history, would certainly subscribe to the analysis of Kissinger that Newsnight was trying to promote.

    Personally, I think this happens frequently on this programme, but when Jermmy Paxman or Gavin Esler present the programme, you feel there is a bit of challenging views and balance. Whereas, Kirsty Wark and Emily Maitlis go with the flow of the editors policy.

    Now, the BBC audience pay the licensing fee to get unbiased and decent coverage. They deserve less lazy and more professional investigators.

    A decent journalist would have asked Kissinger how a country like Saudi Arabia that represents the ugly and fundamentalist Islam was and is a good friend of the establishment he represents. How does that fit with the hypocritical discourse of the West? Where is this clash between Islam and the West in the Saudi case???

    It is not about Islam or otherwise, it is about wanting a regime that doesn’t mind to succumb to the West.

    Anyway, I think Gigi did a good job and maybe next time she should interrupt more and raise her voice to get her message across!

  16. Tallulah (@TallieBear) December 18, 2011 at 6:38 am #

    The problem with programs like this is that they are limited with regards to time and often don’t allow for sufficient disussion. In this particular program they had “esteemed” ‘experts’ whose opinions were the focus of the short span of time allowed for the show.

    Gigi’s comments being cut off are a sad reality of the sound-bite media we have today. If you can’t say it in 140 characters or less, we will edit you.

    If this program had been a real debate, as it was referred to in the BBC response to Gigi’s letter, there would have been someone to properly designate time to each person, with time for rebuttals.

    I think, and this is my personal opinion, that BBC should have handled Gigi’s concerns in a better manner instead of trying to suggest that she should be impressed to be in such “esteemed” company. Their response to her letter suggested that she should be honoured to have been contacted at all.

    She has established herself as a well-versed speaker on the revolution, having been involved from the beginning, and should be given the same respect as all of the experts that they include in programs such as this. It is a shame that she was not given proper respect, but was instead treated like a petulant little girl. Shame on BBC for doing that.

    BBC, you need people like Gigi if you want to continue to do these opinion shows. You know that by having people on the ground as guests that you increase your viewers. What you did in your response to Gigi’s concerns was to show disrespect, and in my opinion, snobbery. In doing this, you insult all of the people on the ground. I would think, as they read about this, they will be more hesitant to speak with you in the future.

    We have to step outside the usual media if we want to express our opinions and share news as it happens. The regular media is failing to do that, both in the dissemination of news, and in opinion programs. I know I’ve learned more from talking to people on the ground via Twitter than I did from organized media. Gigi was one of those people I’ve followed since January and, although I may not always agree with her, I value her opinions. Agreeing to disagree is part of freedom of speech.

    One of the commenter here came up with a good suggestion: why not be interviewed by someone and put it on youtube. You can address the issues presented on the program, and take the time to express your views on it. Just a thought.

  17. Mohammed EL-Haddad December 18, 2011 at 6:45 am #

    What did you expect?!!!
    I have lived and worked in the UK for the past 7 years and I am a license payer for the BBC.
    They have taken shameful views and positions along those years.
    Let me remind you that the BBC decided not to broadcast an appeal for Gaza when thousands of Palestinians were dying under Israeli shell fire…
    They came up with a discussion that was so feeble, racist and disgusting about their impartiality and fear that donations will go to Hamas rather than the victims of the Israeli crime of mass murder…
    Here is Tony Benn putting the morons at BBC in their place…

    Mohammed EL-Haddad

  18. Seif Aref December 18, 2011 at 7:02 am #

    Gigi Im an Egyptian living in London and I was appalled by this show , I know exactly what you mean, you were definatley not given enough time and I dont like how in the response email they mention every contributors title i.e “US secretary of state” or “World famous historian” etc as if you are some sort of lower caste.
    I also noticed this over use of “western this” and “western that” as if they lay claim to this revolution by so generously giving us twitter or facebook, and this “WESTERN” again, idea of democracy. no one can lay claim to this ideal apart from the Greeks I guess? and then again they don’t go round shoving it in peoples face that democracy is GREEK. Keep doing what your doing, cannot be more proud, you give me hope that Egypt will survive. Much Love

  19. LondonXD December 19, 2011 at 1:54 am #

    Kristy Wark has always been rubbish, but she definitely showed how rubbish she can be in this discussion.

    What’s funny is that Liz Gibbons simply brushes off the remarks about the skewed, orientalist conduct of the discussion when it’s clear for all to see; it’s blatantly conducted according to their own narrow view of what is going on in Egypt and the middle east as opposed to what is really happening and the real issues. Having Kissinger there would be funny if it wasn’t so sickening.

    The media in the UK (and i am a Brit in the UK) is only interested interested in the topics from a gossip point of view, “is muslim brotherhood dangerous”, “is shariah going to take over”, “how good is the west for setting an example”, it’s all very dumbed down and over simplified. They’re not interested in knowing about the deeper issues and what’s actually going on.

    As for her telling you to take her messages down, tell her to F*** off. What’s she going to do, fly over to Egypt with a lawyer and legal documents?!

    Overall this discussion was terrible thanks to Kristy and the skewed “questions” she asked along with the fact that they had Kissinger there along with that annoying and pointless historian guy.

  20. dmmaseoseoseoseo December 19, 2011 at 12:26 pm #

    i bookmarked this! looking for updates

  21. Christopher Haydon December 20, 2011 at 7:10 pm #

    Dear Gigi

    I hope this finds you well – I am keen to contact you directly about a project I am currently researching to do with the Arab Spring (I will be in Cairo in early January to do this.) I would love to speak to you about this and let you know more about what I am doing, might you be able to drop me an email so I can contact you directly?



  22. Charles Pearson December 22, 2011 at 9:55 pm #

    Re the impartiallity of the BBC, they never have been, as was entirely expected and in line with Reith’s frank statement about whose interest it would serve when it was first set up. A good example, decades before the present disgusting right wing bias, was when that “highly respected” TV presenter, Robin Day. conducting what I think was the original version of “Question Time”. After asking for comments from the studio audience, he responded to the only person expressing a clearly leftist, certainly vehement condemnation of Thatcher and her cohorts, by arrogantly cutting the speaker short, dismissing it as “rubbish”. That is the word he used and he was not censured by anyone. I am not at all sure that it is worthwhile taking part in these programmes. What would help much more is if we could have TV stations, even one, dedicated to true left views and arguments – say like “Democracy Now” in the U.S.A. I am sure that one has its faults, but it seems to me to be streets ahead of anything we have. The problem of course, or a vital one anyway, is where the funding would come from. And would it be banned anyway, as it would seem the government claims it owns the airways. But if it could be done, it could be more effective than dozens of tiny leftwing outlets on the Internet.

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  24. Nigel Strudwick December 26, 2011 at 1:36 am #

    I have seen nothing above to change my view that the BBC has no particular bias. If both the left and the right criticise it for not being of their viewpoint, then it suggests it is broadly neutral. Yes, it has issues, yes it does not always report the Middle East as well as it could, but overall it still remains the best news organisation in the world. Thank heavens for the UK license fee for helping to keep that. Just watch news in the USA for an example of how bad it could get.

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  26. camerhogne1@yahoo.co.uk February 25, 2012 at 2:34 am #

    Gigi. I am not a so-called ‘leftist’, but in the interest of balance, I saw the interview and I did as you suggested, in calculating the time for each speaker. The results are thus:
    211seconds Karman, 181sec Kissenger, 168s Schaama, 108s Ibrahim, 76s Greenstock

    Kissenger’s English was often VERY slow.

    You say the presenter interrupted you, and you are right, but she also interrupted Henry Kissenger, (to get your opinion, I must point out) and she interrupted Greenstock, who had the shortest time of all the speakers. The person with the most time was Karman. The others spoke about other revolutions, including the ones on Syria and Iran. So what thoughts do you have about them?

    I do not see on what basis you were treated any worse than the others. Is that really enough for you to boycott the show? If you carry on boycotting everything, only taking part when it is completely on your terms, politics will go on without you and you will be left shouting from the side-lines- it will be very easy to marginalise you. Ignore if you like, but many of these ‘leftist allies’ in the UK/America were calling your revolution a Western sponsored plot to install a more friendly government.

    Do you think all of the broadcasters are biased, or which ones do you consider to be better than the BBC? And if you start your own broadcaster how well will you take care to air opposing viewpoints (including those you do not agree with) better than this?

    But I heard from a Egyptian associate of mine that either the Muslim Brotherhood or Salafists were calling people campaigning for a secular constitution (like yourself) as ‘Crusaders’ or ‘Westernised’ etc. Is that true? If not fine, but if so, how do you answer this charge and do you regret not answering the question when you had the opportunity?

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