AUC After-Grad Party With a Splash of Sexism

16 Jun
at least for me...

Veiled girls not allowed to AUC after-grad party

As an AUC graduate of the spring class 2011, I am not planning to attend the usual fahkes – lame after graduation party, which immediately brings horrific images from the movie Mean Girls and the plastics. Then, during rehearsal today, I came across this piece of information via Twitter account Ahmed Abulhassan stating that veiled/hijabi girls are not allowed to attend after-grad. EXCUSE ME?!!! After making some phone calls to get to the bottom of who is actually is in charge of this event and especially this policy, I found out what was expected.

As far as I know and what I gathered from fellow AUCians, who normally attend those parties, is that this event is usually put on by AUCians of the graduating class. The party is planned independently from AUC as an institution, other than the name or the fact that it follows an AUC graduation. Usually the graduating class is invited except this time, whoever is in charge chose to exclude veiled girls. WHY?! Are they not pretty enough? Not appropriate for the event?! May tarnish the “cool in crowd” of the sexist/racist ignorant spoiled elitist AUCians, who get to decide who is invited and who is not? Also the hotel where the event is held allows veiled women, no problem, I attended countless weddings there full of veiled women, so it is NOT a hotel policy.

Here is a testimony of a graduating veiled girl, who wrote on Facebook a note about how she feels of being discriminated against. Thank you Menna Adli El Kiey for sharing your thoughts.

After all this digging around, I give you the douchebag of spring class 2011, who is said to be the person in-charge: Mr. I-am-too-Racist-Sexist for my shirt Gamal Kharma.

Here are some Twitter conversations starting with Sara AbdelRahman @Sarrasworld asking if the “rumor” of discrimination is true? Then she was immediately assured that it is a reality and when she asked who organized it, she was answered by Omar Khairy @okhairy88 of the same douche: Gamal Kharma @Gkharma


Please correct me if I am wrong, or if you have any more details about this nightmare of discrimination, do let me and others know. We are suppose to be graduating and celebrating our journey of education, but it seems that some people, who discriminate, need to go to rehab to get over themselves instead of graduate.

To be fair, here is what Mr. Gamal Kharma @Gkharma said this morning …

So you decide if Mr. too-sexist-for-my-shirt is a discriminatory douchebag or not?

If party organizers like him have a right to discriminate, then I also have a right to criticize them and hold them accountable for such behavior.

The private Facebook event is created by several douchebags including: Tamer Banna, Ahmed El-Meligy , Marwan Ziad, Dina Rizkallah Akladios. Anyone who is okay with attending this party that clearly discriminates against veiled girls is a douchebag and sexist in my book and special attention goes to the organizers.

48 Responses to “AUC After-Grad Party With a Splash of Sexism”

  1. Eric McCune June 16, 2011 at 3:23 am #

    Sounds like the issues some friends of mine faced at clubs in Cairo that made them wear their hijabs “Spanish style.” :(

  2. \m/ Mody June 16, 2011 at 3:35 am #

    Sounds like a bachelor party to me. and for the record girls with veils are proud of themselves despite what others say or do it only make them even prouder.
    and BTW his name is Kharma !?

  3. Anas June 16, 2011 at 4:22 am #

    خليط من مشاعر الاشمئزاز والقرف والاحتقار للبني آدمين دول
    كلمة بني آدم بريئه منهم
    دول بني آدمين بدماغ عجول

    أنا أول مره أشوف كدا بجد !

    ما ينفعش تسكتوا علي المهزله دي والله
    إهانه للي حضر وإهانه للي اتمنع وإهانه لمجتمع بأكمله

    • Freedom of speech June 23, 2011 at 12:35 am #

      I don’t blame kharma and insulting him is not right. He made a party he has the right to put any dresscode he wants. Whether ppl wnt to go or not it’s their issue. Plz stop talking and judging u drama queen.

  4. Omar Kamel June 16, 2011 at 4:25 am #

    Unfortunately, far too many idiots out there think that ‘liberal’ means not tolerating anybody who’s conservative. They don’t seem to understand that by their intolerance they aren’t liberal at all, simply fascist, closed minded, and – I already said idiotic, didn’t I ;)?

    It’s basically the bully-jock mentality – if you like reading books, then you can’t be cool. If a girl doesn’t want to have sex with him, then she can’t be cool. If a girl doesn’t want to show her cleavage then she can’t possibly be liberal – cause liberal means booze, sex, and skimpy clothing.

    Retards.

    Some of it however is simply social schizophrenia – some of these people have what they consider ‘liberal’ attitudes, but they haven’t actually re-wired themselves cognitively – so they still think that getting drunk and screwing are inherently ‘bad’ things – but – they want to do them anyway – and, while doing them, they don’t want anybody around who might remind them of the social values that they are, for purely hormonal, non-rationalized, reasons – doing their best to ignore.

    They’re basically animals pretending to be humans who don’t want to be reminded that they’ve chosen not to be humans.

    They hate to be reminded of the values they are pretending not to hold.

    • Mostafa Rizk June 16, 2011 at 10:39 am #

      Absolutely the best summary of this hypocritical and contradictory attitude that unfortunately exists in our culture. Bravo.

    • Lobna June 16, 2011 at 4:52 pm #

      Couldn’t possibly have been better said. Kudos to you, a LOT!
      ~A Veiled book-lover, that thinks BOTH can be cool :p

    • Amr Sarhan June 16, 2011 at 9:47 pm #

      Respect!
      It’s like you’re describing why today’s “liberal” muslims feel threatened from the muslims that follows their religion’s teachings

  5. Omar Kamel June 16, 2011 at 4:31 am #

    Out of curiosity – and partly to see if I was right – I just clicked your link to the idiot’s Facebook profile – and sure enough – check the list of interests to see just how much cognitive dissonance he displays:

    “Queen Rania, Bloomberg Television, Saleh Selim, Buto Beat Records, Ahsan Nas -أحسن ناس, نريد د.أيمن المحجوب عميد لكلية اقتصاد وعلوم سياسية, Gasser Swiss Service Center, Socialista at The Terrace, Tazkarty, Waleed Sokkar, Im a Muslim & Im Proud, Nuntees Waffles, Rahhala Racing, Electrum Records, Ana Ivanovicand 8 more”

    See? He likes Queen Rania! AND…AND He’s a MUSLIM & PROUD of it!

    My god, I almost feel sorry for people like that. My head would explode if I had to walk around with that many contradictions all at once!!

  6. ellohami June 16, 2011 at 5:11 am #

    What type of sickness it is ? What’s wrong with this dude ? HE REALLY NEEDS THERAPY.

  7. ellohami June 16, 2011 at 5:15 am #

    I suggest the students must raise this issue to the AUC administration even though the event is nor organised by the university itself, bu still, it’s in the name of the AUC and they gotta do something about it. Or else, this guy must be sued for racism.

  8. magdoub June 16, 2011 at 8:37 am #

    Simple and Precise, You summed up the story real well :)
    You should be a journalist

  9. Rasha June 16, 2011 at 10:02 am #

    What this kind of Damn Culture!! have we become that Paranoid to eliminate ppl according to their Wearing !! Finally I am depressed one word describes ياعزيزي كلنا مضطهدون

    • Yasmin El-beih June 16, 2011 at 10:35 am #

      Gigi,
      Veiled women are discriminated against/not allowed to enter a large number of cairo nightclubs/ bars/ discotheques. I heard purple doesn’t let them in aslan. This isn’t just about a party held by a bunch of AUCians, the discrimination against veiled women in the Cairo nightlife scene is very prevelant.
      Omar kamel: respect!

      • ro_CA June 16, 2011 at 10:08 pm #

        Your comment caught my attention the most because of how you stated that there is discrimination against women in Cairo night life. Muslim women, and especially those who are veiled shouldn’t even be anywhere near clubs, bars and discotheques. Doesn’t this contradict the whole concept of hejab anyway? No offence to your opinion but I just felt the need to state my own :)

  10. samy maher June 16, 2011 at 10:42 am #

    مش عارف بس هو العيب مش عليه العيب على اللى موافقين و هيحضروا الحفلة و يساعدوه على كده احسن حاجة تقاطعوها

  11. Mostafa El Hagagy June 16, 2011 at 11:08 am #

    Is this the Civilization they want !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Preventing Veiled Girls from Entering the Party (as if it a good thing)
    This really proves that the so called civilized intellectuals are not the defending for freedom, they will be the ones who deprive people from theirs

  12. Iman Akef (an 05' graduate) June 16, 2011 at 11:13 am #

    It is indeed an insult to us AUCians that you Gamal are one. Some ppl no matter how much knowledge and civilization you instill in them remain ignorant and discriminatory. Who is he in the first place to define a certain dress code? I say you all lovely girls go with your hijab, and even niqab. Guys if you want to intimidate this Gamal even more why don’t you show off your nice jeans, galabeyas and flip flops too! This is our party not his!

  13. Dorothy June 16, 2011 at 12:22 pm #

    With all due respect to the veilded ladies and I understand their feeling of discrimination (I actually faced a similar situation at a Cairo nightspot with a veiled friend of mine as I thought we were going to a “restaurant” but it’s thought of more as a bar, and I stood up for her right to be admitted to the bar in question with the doorman (unsuccessfully). However, in reality don’t you think it’s a bit contradictory for a respectable young lady (veiled or otherwise) to want to be admitted to these places which as a practising moslem (which I am and proud of it, but not veiled) are against our beliefs?

  14. @arabguru June 16, 2011 at 1:19 pm #

    What is most ridiculous if you ask me is that the organizer thinks the dress code is justification for this outrageous behavior! And he mentions that his sisters are veiled!!! He’s really nothing short of a self-hating lunatic!

  15. Moftasa June 16, 2011 at 2:14 pm #

    School parties have always been organised by cunts who want profit & social status. They’ll make sure they’d bar people who they don’t like.

    They organise it as a service to all students but in reality they consider the party their own, with own rules & close friends don’t pay (or get certain benefits that don’t apply to others).

  16. AUC graduate June 16, 2011 at 2:18 pm #

    Why are some of you so surprised? I mean come on. We’ve been to AUC and we’ve seen the good and the bad and the just pathetic.

    Some people who are AUC graduates decided to organize a party and in their insolence made it only-for-the-cool. Of course what it really means is this party is restricted to the racist, fascist and narrow-minded idiots.

    My point however, is that this could happen at any university/institution/extended family, etc. Bigots are EVERYWHERE. They have a convoluted way of understanding the world (or lack of understanding I should say). If these idiots who graduated from AUC, are holding a graduate party in some fancy hotel, you can find another set of idiots who graduated from Helwan university holding it in some less expensive venue and advertising it by another method than Facebook. Not that they might not be Facebook literate. I’m sure many young Egyptians are computer literate regardless of their social status.

    But what I’m trying to say (not so successfully) is that bigots are everywhere around us in our society and at different social statuses. You might believe that because this bunch were lucky enough to go to AUC (or unlucky, depending on how you view AUC) that they must be open-minded and accepting. But how many times have you walked through AUC and noticed the congregations of people. Each congregation is made up of a certain “type”. And you could always pick out the ignorant idiots who thought themselves liberal and open-minded. They always had a certain “I’m so cool that’s why I’m an AUCian” kind of look. Then again you could pick out the true liberals who were interested in mingling with people from different backgrounds to understand more about the world around them.

    I’m not saying we should quietly accept the morons around us. On the contrary, they have to be faced. But personalities come in different shades and colors. The less surprised we are about it, the better we can all be prepared for it when we come across such idiots who want to throw some rude comment at us for being who we are: veiled, Muslim, Christian, married, single, gay/lesbian. Discrimination can come in different forms. We have to stand up against it.

  17. Suzy June 16, 2011 at 2:20 pm #

    I say simply, Boycott the party in solidarity with veiled women!

  18. Lubna Rostom June 16, 2011 at 3:13 pm #

    I really don’t understand why veiled women want to go to after grad parties or clubs where it’s all about getting drunk and dancing obscenely?

    Every decision we take comes with consequences, and you should only go for that decision if you are happy and convinced of its repercussions.

    You’re a veiled woman, live by it. If you truly feel like you’re missing out on activities that you want to enjoy, take off your veil and walk into wherever you want, noone will bother you.

    It’s like making a conscious decision to go vegetarian but still fighting for your rights to walk into butcher shops? What on earth do you want to do with a butcher house if you CHOSE to get off meat?

  19. sherif h June 16, 2011 at 3:21 pm #

    MY GOD…..U THINK THOSE CREATUES DONT EXIST IN AN INTELLECTUAL SOCIETY…WZ UR PERMISSION…IM SHARING THE COUCHE BAG’S PROFILE WZ A CUTE LITTLE NOTE OF WUTS HE DID….

  20. Khadija Nasseredin June 16, 2011 at 4:28 pm #

    I strongly resent this guy! May Allah guide him to the Straight Path… Ameen. I believe it is enough honor for the veiled girls not to attend this dirty party, it’s definitely better off without them.

    And Iman ‘Akef, I guess I know you! We met at tante Sameera’s place on March 15, I’m your husband’s relative and Umm Safiyyah. Remember?

  21. tausnowflakes June 16, 2011 at 5:25 pm #

    Thank you for providing the sources and letting us know who’s behind all of this! God, how did this idea even come to their minds!! I feel disgraced that some so-called egyptians think like that! And one of the dudes was wearing “Egyptian and proud” umm yea right!!

  22. Sandy June 16, 2011 at 6:06 pm #

    Ok here is what I think.. I think the problem lies in the stereotypes and assumptions we make.. He assumed that because there is alcohol served in the party, that she wouldn’t want to go (while maybe she does) and she made the assumption that because he said mo7agabat are not allowed, he sees it as “yaaaa3″ (while maybe it was out of respect for her).. The problem with such stereotypes is that they pull people apart. What if next year the same thing happens and then all mo7agabat decide to have their own party? then we’re simply polarizing a group that actually could have enjoyed the same party while putting their differences aside… People are more tolerant than we think.. She probably did not mind alcohol being served and he did not mind el 7egab.. but wrong assumptions pulled them apart..

  23. A MUSLIM GIRL June 16, 2011 at 7:00 pm #

    Even though our religion ban us from going to these places (girls or boys, veiled or nt), and I as a veiled Muslim girl I refused to go such places, but still its not their right to do so, they don’t get the chance to do this for me not even for any one, and finally, its a honor for me to be banned ( BY MY RELIGION) to go to these places, and to be covered, and protected.

  24. ro_CA June 16, 2011 at 10:14 pm #

    Unfortunately, veiled women are discriminated against in many places. Veiled women are not allowed to work in hotels because they need to wear short, fitted uniforms to appeal to people. I was refused to jobs before and the excuse was that I was wearing a head scarf. The saddest part of all this is that when we travel abroad veiled women work everywhere. Here in Canada I have seen veiled women working at a very prestigious hotel’s front desk, at banks and at the mall. Even the West is more tolerant of the head scarf than our ‘Muslim’ Egypt is.

  25. Nour S. June 16, 2011 at 11:22 pm #

    To be honest, as an aftergrad for my own highschool, last week.. Hijabis (even though I don’t like to label them bil tari2a di) were allowed to 35 — that’s because it was a private school party. I think the organizers should not have set this rule. But to be honest, a veiled girl should have the choice to either go to a place with alcohol or not. I believe it’s confidential. One’s belief should be between one’s self and God. If you think of it, many Veiled girls attend wedding THAT SERVE alcohol…then why aren’t they not allowed?? I want people on twitter who are against this — to stop perceiving the issue through the concept of alcohol being forbidden aka “Harram”. It’s a concept of discrimination. It’s like labeling anyone through their traditions/social norms and not allowing them to enter a place. Where’s the ‘open mind’ AUCians??? I thought life was easy in your world? Accept the hijabbis thennn.

    • Nour S. June 16, 2011 at 11:23 pm #

      To be honest, as for the aftergrad for my own highschool, last week.. Hijabis (even though I don’t like to label them bil tari2a di) were allowed to Club 35 — that’s because it was a private school party. I think the organizers should not have set this rule. But to be honest, a veiled girl should have the choice to either go to a place with alcohol or not. I believe it’s confidential. One’s belief should be between one’s self and God. If you think of it, many Veiled girls attend weddings THAT SERVE alcohol…then why aren’t they not allowed?? I want people on twitter who are against this — to stop perceiving the issue through the concept of alcohol being forbidden aka “Harram”. It’s a concept of discrimination. It’s like labeling anyone through their traditions/social norms and not allowing them to enter a place. Where’s the ‘open mind’ AUCians??? I thought life was easy in your world? Accept the hijabbis thennn.

  26. nour June 16, 2011 at 11:49 pm #

    Why are you guys leaving him organize and become in charge of this event it’s your after grad party you set the rules not him! One senseless idiot can’t really say who can enter and who can’t; if someone isn’t allowed to get in then it should definitely be him, not any of the veiled girls!!

    • andreas June 17, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

      Interestingly it’s predominantly men who make a fuzz about this. Can’t the women speak for themselves?

      Live is way too short to miss out on fun and youth due to arbitrary religious rules people got so used to that they stop being entirely free individuals. Carpe Diem!
      btw: No matter in what a person believes in, every one of use has just this ONE life in the constellation we are living right now. Use it! Enjoy it. Don’t make a fuzz about little things like this party and start treating people regardless of their gender exactly the same (when I think about women which are not allowed to drive cars… it blows my mind). And don’t come up with excuses like “it’s their choice”. When you are indoctrinated for as long as you can think back, it is not a free decision. Let kids do what they want and when they are old enough to read the Koran and understand the religion, then they can make their own choices whether their religion demands to run around veiled and don’t drive cars.

  27. Windy James June 17, 2011 at 6:18 am #

    You all can just throw your own graduation part and invite everyone to it. No one will go to that guy’s “event”.

  28. Mohammed E. Moussa June 17, 2011 at 9:53 am #

    Open-mindness is to accept what other people do, make, believe or act, in spite of how different they are from yours. Period.

    AUC graduates… Do you really have to go to THIS party?? Why don’t you make another one and enjoy it the way you like?? :)

  29. 3aber sabeel June 17, 2011 at 1:38 pm #

    Thank you for publicly speaking against this crap! This issue has been plaguing AUC aftergrads for the past several years!

    And I don’t mean to be a party pooper, but spending 350 pounds to attend a party with loud music and drunk kids doesn’t make any sense, with the current economic slow down Egypt is witnessing. 350 pounds can feed a family of 5 for one month! Yes they can!

  30. asmaa attia June 17, 2011 at 3:20 pm #

    This is so sad ,Not that I think that the party is a big deal to anybody ,but for some kid who is graduating and starting a new life to have this opinion and Ideas and want to mandate it too ,I guess he has a lot of growing up to do ,graduating really did not do the trick for him.

  31. auc June 18, 2011 at 2:21 am #

    For crying out loud people… why do you even think that veiled girls should go to pary like this?? veiled girls are so for a certain reason and there is a purpose behind that and it definity contradicts being in a place where everyone gets drunk, etc….
    And to be honest, these girls won’t even have fun at these places/clubs.
    now I am assuming you are thinking “and why the alcohol and all these stuff? can’t we have fun another way?” The only thing I can tell you is “that’s how we do it and that’s how we have fun, but you, go have fun your way, get an organizer to throw a party who only let veiled girls into his party and do it your way. You don’t like how we do it and how we think, just don’t be with us”

  32. yd June 18, 2011 at 3:01 am #

    i didn’t read the comments….but I graduated last spring and this Hijab thing is sort of an unspoken policy….it’s been going on for ages…more than four years as far as i know…but the thing is that there has always been more than one aftergrad so usually someone allowed hijab….ganzoury used to organize one then the “cool gucci” corner people started organizing there own aftergrads and since then …..anyways i’m glad someone is finally doing something about it…i’m veiled and i’ve boycotted aftergrads for sometime now…i tried to talk to people in my circle and it worked back then but i couldn’t do anything about it on a large scale since i didn’t have any proof they banned anyone from going…so my advice is get them to text it, email it…just have it in writing….good luck =)

  33. Jay June 18, 2011 at 3:45 pm #

    Why Can’t You Consider That The Organizers Are Actually Respecting You Because They Wouldn’t Want You As Veiled Women To Be In The Middle Of A Drunken Crowd Or Would You Like To Be Exposed To This. If You Are A Veiled Woman Then Respect Your Religion And Do Not Go To An After Grad Taking Place In A Bar With A Burlesque Theme Having Almost Naked Girls And Guys Dancing And Whine Why They Didn’t Invite “Me”. Grow Up Please And Have Some Respect For Your Religion! And You Know What …All You Do In Such Events Is The Like RUMORS RUMORS Some More RUMORS. Trust Me If You Were Veiled You Wouldn’t Want To Be Even Invited To Such An Event Because You’ll be More Than Insulted. Consider Your “Not-Being-Invited” Thing As A Sign Of Respect From The Organizers.

  34. Jahenda El Kenany June 18, 2011 at 3:48 pm #

    Why Can’t You Consider That The Organizers Are Actually Respecting You Because They Wouldn’t Want You As Veiled Women To Be In The Middle Of A Drunken Crowd Or Would You Like To Be Exposed To This. If You Are A Veiled Woman Then Respect Your Religion And Do Not Go To An After Grad Taking Place In A Bar With A Burlesque Theme Having Almost Naked Girls And Guys Dancing And Whine Why They Didn’t Invite “Me”. Grow Up Please And Have Some Respect For Your Religion! And You Know What …All You Do In Such Events Is The Like RUMORS RUMORS Some More RUMORS. Trust Me If You Were Veiled You Wouldn’t Want To Be Even Invited To Such An Event Because You’ll be More Than Offended. Consider Your “Not-Being-Invited” Thing As A Sign Of Respect From The Organizers.

    • Omar Kamel June 20, 2011 at 3:30 am #

      Sorry, but do you have ANY idea how silly that sounds?

      I guess that’s why the British wouldn’t allow Egyptians into the Gezira Club back in the day, eh? Because really, it’s just full of Nasty British People Doing Immoral & Distasteful Things That You Really Don’t Want To See Anyway!

      Talk about infantilizing veiled women.

      Seriously?

  35. Hala Abdel-wahed June 19, 2011 at 12:23 pm #

    Gigi, you have to keep in mind that throughout Egypt, girls who are veiled are usually not allowed into places that serve alcohol.

    I’ve seen it happen to a lot of my girl friends.. it’s obviously not something personal from the organizers. Hotels, restaurants, bars, clubs, even Sequoia stresses on the dress code of veiled girls upon entering or even reserving.

    I mean, this isn’t something new or a personal idea they came up with.. this is how most venues have been operating in Egypt for years.

    So, even though that’s not fair and is really upsetting, it’s equally not fair to blame it all on the organizers who are abiding by the rules and regulations that are set by other institutions..

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